When you worship God, you worship not God but how man wants you to see him
So deeply has the need of a revealed religion been felt,
that many who have not received revelations from God
experienced the need to invent them. Fr Leslie Rumble
Briefly -
Suppose you are concerned that religion is getting people to devote their love
and service to a being who is not real or who does not give a damn.
Suppose you are concerned that religion has doctrines and morals that thwart truth and cause harm.
Who is to blame? It is men who say God commanded these things so it is safe to say they are the real blamers. If God said it indeed then he is trying to get them blamed more than him.
If you blame people because of what God is said then if there is no God or God did not say it then the blamer is you. The problem is you.
You simply cannot give even a genuine message from God that blames without being a blamer for you are deciding you speak for him and you cannot prove he said it.
If God exists only in the mind of the believers that will have consequences. Errors lead to harms and lies and many unnoticed or unintended harms. Believers will act at times like the object of belief is real. They say good comes from God. In fact it comes from them if there is no God. But there is also the harms of faith in God to worry about. So the good and the bad is from the believer. They try to deflect, they try to make God responsible, but that does not erase their own responsibility. If God does not exist he cannot be responsible in your place even partly. If God does exist he still cannot be responsible. See your own immaturity and admit the truth.
Only what is valuable and important gets counterfeited. Religion counterfeits
truth. It risks truth as well. We need knowledge and truth and that is what we
want faith in God for - God by default would be totally intelligent so he is a
shortcut to truth if he speaks to us.
God is the being you can have a relationship with and who is absolute limitless
truth and love and there is no real love without truth.
Therefore to see God through the lens of a religion, Muhammad or Jesus is
idolatry. Seeing somebody's image of God is not seeing God. To take a person as
an authority on God who is absolute truth is contradictory. Whatever comes from
a man even if right by its nature could be lies or error and to make the word of
man absolute truth is foolish. Absolute truth by definition means it stands for
itself and should be taken on its own authority alone.
There is never a revelation from God except from somebody who thinks God is
inspiring them what to say. That is dangerous because of the chance of error and
the chance that the person is trying to be treated like God the easy way. If you
are treated as God’s mouth that is as good as being treated as God and you have
no hassle having to keep being angelic all the time or right all the time. A
fraud then is more likely to claim to be a prophet than a god. You can just say
God occasionally inspires you so that you don't need to be right or sinless all
the time. You can even say revelation is a process so that you can err and work
with God to weed it out and that the end product, a holy book or whatever, is
the authoritative truth from God.
In some cases, the person claims to get revelations from God but does not claim
to be inspired in how he reports these revelations to others so errors can creep
in. That is the craftiest scheme of all.
The goal is to get seen as a revelator of God and protecting your claims from
exposure and ensuring that there is an "explanation" for the exposure. It works
very well for lots of religious frauds thrive after being caught out. They get
the believers to doubt themselves when they experience doubts about them.
Because godlings and prophets are human and they know it they will do the
following. They will say God inspired their teachings thus they turn their word
into the word of God. If man cannot be God then speaking for God is just as
good. Claiming to be divine becomes a problem if you are caught sinning or
unable to do a miracle. The drive behind godlings and prophets is arrogance and
craftiness and their ego gets addicted to people believing in them - believing
rubbish because another says it is true is a huge compliment to them.
If you would like your word to be treated as the word of God then you can follow
a prophet and revere his utterances and that may be enough for you. You make his
word your own and he does the work. Easy!
PEOPLE ARE TOO UNRELIABLE TO SPEAK FOR GOD
Lies are very rife. Individuals lie and more importantly keep up structures that
lie such as politics and culture and religion. They lie by not challenging lies
and letting people wander into the dangerous blind unknown.
A man says God spoke to him. Other men say that he did speak to him.
Is human nature too deceptive to take such ideas seriously?
For you to say all people are irrational or bad or sinful means you are cutting
off your own foundation for if those things are true then who can trust what you
say? You are left with a foundation but it is a weakened one. Sometimes there is
no foundation but that depends on the magnitude of the lies.
Some limit the irrationality to religious believers. They say we get by knowing
we cannot fully trust people but given the importance of God claims and the
claims of religion we should pay no heed to religious believers. Life can go on
without believing anybody's religious claims.
If you are a prophet or Messiah or pope who reports what you say is a revelation
from God then what? You are top of the untrustworthy list. If people can get by
without paying much attention to religious hearsay they definitely can get by
without you. You are in such a tiny minority. There is also the problem that you
are asking people to trust your miracle stories even though miracles need a high
standard of testing for they are so like magic. Let the evidence make the claim
not you!
Protestants say that all we do is tainted with sin which is why God cannot be
pleased with our good works so only grace, his free gift of salvation can save
us. Catholics say the same thing except their idea of what grace does is
different. It is a fact that nobody really loves God with all their heart so
that they would suffer forever for him. He does not get the love he deserves for
his perfect love. These faiths and Islam warn about how clever Satan is and that
Satan manipulates everybody so it gets worse.
If you are coming from the angle that all people lie, this adds to the mistrust
especially in God matters.
The religionists wreck their own foundation. Religion is not about God or faith
at all but about culture. God and faith are just props for the culture. There is
no foundation left. Religion cannot be inherently morality promoting or morality
preserving.
Imagine you are Jesus who said that nobody is good but God. Imagine you are his
mouthpiece St Paul who said that all are divorced from God by sin. You are
asking others to be so keen to accuse that they would take your unreliable word
for it to blacken people as sinners who have no God in them until they repent or
whatever. That is just hate. It also shows your pride. Religious leaders are
masters at using humility to hide their pride. Catholicism reaches a new low by
inventing the idea that babies have no God in them until baptism puts him in.
Religion is not about character building but about religious character building.
You are not to be a good person for the poor but a good person for the poor for
it pleases Jesus. This outlook says that the suffering of others does not
matter. It treats helping suffering as an afterthought after serving Jesus or a
tool to serve him with. What about your own? It says the same thing. Only
growing a good character through it matters. That is hard and cruel enough but
to say that only a good character in the eyes of Jesus matters is worse. You may
interject, "Does suffering matter a lot or not at all? Is it only becoming more
compassionate, fair, kind and loving that matters?" You are turning your
suffering into a means to an end. There is a pride in saying you should be
compassionate and fair and loving just because you can as if what they are for
does not matter. Suffering is by definition a degradation and that is what
matters. It matters that suffering demeans you and by definition nothing else
can matter. It is cruel to use suffering either your own or somebody else's as a
virtue seed pot.
If there is any time it is right to say that man should not be listened to just
because man in general is unreliable, it is with God. You should not take man’s
word for it that God speaks even if God does speak.
Ad hominem arguments are mistakes for they attack the person saying something
instead of challenging what they have said. If x says God exists don't say, "X
is stupid so I will not listen." That does not make x wrong. Keep your focus on
the argument made by x. It is possible for a system of thought to be ad hominem
on itself. When and only when religion claims that God uses it to show his love
and good works which means ad hominem applies to religionists and religion.
Religion by calling man unreliable in God matters is inviting it.
To say all people are not very dependable is saying you are not that reliable
either. So logic says you should not be taken at your word without checking. But
evidence gets you out of the quandary. You cannot use God to get people's
attention. Realistically a man saying God said x or y is going to get more of a
hearing than one who does not.
THE DANGER OF DIVINE REVELATION CLAIMS
A sense of morality does not necessarily intend what is best for others - a
moral person may put obedience before the happiness of others. That would happen
more often than not even if it should not. But there is another reason why moral
teaching is risky.
If good people can be got to do terrible things by an authority figure when they
feel they should obey then clearly there is a risk that all morality systems
carry. They demand obedience and that comes across as being more important than
what is commanded. To obey a God telling you to love your neighbour in fact
stresses obedience to God more than love. Obedience and love - either of them
can make you miserable and joyless. But obedience is more likely to do that than
love. If God commands you to love there is a risk of putting you off love.
Loving for no reason and certainly not because you were commanded is everything
while loving for God orders it is nothing in comparison.
Doing the good can be more dangerous than doing the bad. That is true if you do
good just because it is good and good is more dangerous if you are ordered or
pressured to do it.
God presumably only directly commands one in a billion! The trouble is the rest
us of have to go to his prophets and holy book or religion to get the
information second-hand or infinite-hand. So God sends you to man - how strange
and how risky. The risk increases if the authority is seen as a man of God or an
authorised spokesperson for God and that is down to the fact that belief in God
goes with the doctrine that God lets evil and suffering and death happen for
good reasons- he uses them. Whoever says that it is okay for God to send
terrible sickness to kill babies but not to tell you to make the sickness in a
lab is just a fantasist not a believer. She or he is a hypocrite. In their
hypocrisy, they insult those who suffer for they use their suffering to build
hypocritical delusions on it.
The good may feel that they are so good that some bad now is fine. We see that
once God and religion get involved in moral deliberations that this is happening
in some form.
If right is right and wrong is wrong then let that be enough! Why do you need to
reinforce and increase the problem caused by commands by making out God
commands?
Even if God is right for us and moral then it is clearly a very dangerous thing
to go to man for his word. No loving God would want that.
Finally
An idol is whatever you think of as being of supreme importance when it does not
deserve it. The idea of God will be the biggest idol of all for God is not about
what you think of him or think he is. If you have the truth about God and his
true religion and your motive is, “If I didn't have this I'd make do with
inventing it” that is still idolatry for the truth means nothing to you. You
will never get away with trying to make truth what you want truth to be.
Disobeying a man-made religious rule to say not draw Muhammad or to baptise your
child does not make you the instigator. They are the instigator and you are the
hero. When your rule is against somebody's rule for you what else can you do but
break it?