JESUS: NEITHER GOD NOR HIS SON
The Christian Scriptures Deny that Jesus Christ is God
"As to the Christian system of faith, it appears to me as a species of atheism ;
a sort of religious denial of God.
It professes to believe in a man rather than in God." Thomas Paine. My comment:
that is certainly true in practice!
Read this site for a Christian refutation of the idea that the Bible holds that
Jesus is God http://www.christadelphia.org/wrested1.htm
PREFACE
The purpose of this book is to reveal that the doctrine that Jesus is God is a
fiction. Jesus was not God and the New Testament does not actually say he is
God. When it doesn’t say it and especially since it denies it, we can be
confident that Jesus is not God for it is the only source we have that is close
to Jesus assuming he lived.
Why is Jesus Kyrios and never called God? Kyrios is Lord. It is God's name but
that does not mean it can't be given in honour to a person who is not God but
who represents God and has God's authority.
The non-divinity of Jesus is a wonderful tool for making Christianity collapse
and should be employed towards that noble end. It also shows that Christianity
has no business looking down its nose at idolatry for it is the biggest offender
against God’s ban on idolatry. The Church may argue that if it is wrong about
Jesus being God it means well and it is God not Jesus it means to worship for it
means to worship Jesus only if he is God. So the error is not in who God is but
what God has done or not done. But the Bible rejects this logic for idolaters
want their worship of idols to go to the true God if they are wrong and still
God says he hates idolatry and rejects the worship of them. The heathen believe
that God has broken up into a pile of gods who live in idols and the Church does
not say their error is in what God has done and not in what and who God is. St
Paul said that the demons take the worship offered to idols. The logic of the
Church would imply that if Jesus is not God and you feel more attracted to God
by believing that he is then it is best to worship Jesus as God. It would be an
argument for idolatry. It would be saying the Bible is wrong to condemn this
sin.
The Ebionites and many sects rooted in the first century denied that Jesus was
really God. If you read The Early Church, Paul of Samosata who was bishop of
Antioch and was appointed in 260 AD (page 114), Origen who died about 254 AD
(page 105) and Justin Martyr (page 86) of the mid second century, were major
Christian theologians who did not agree that the Bible should be interpreted to
mean that Jesus was literally Yahweh God.
The Christians fabricate Bible evidence that Jesus is God.
A prophecy in Isaiah that isn’t even about Jesus is thought to be predicting
Jesus’ divinity in saying he shall be called Mighty God. But it only says he
will be called it.
God in Numbers 23:19 says that God is not a human or son of man that he should
lie or ever change his mind about anything. Jesus if he is God and risen is now
in eternity and in eternity there is no past or present or future so for that
reason God saying he is not man stands even though it was said "before" Jesus
came. Isaiah knowing that text would not have meant Emmanuel is God.
They say Jesus said he knows all that God knows when he only said that nobody
knows God but the Son and God knows the Son.
They say God called Jesus the Kyrios his own name. But God gives divine titles
to men in the Old Testament as honorific titles. In Genesis 5, the birth of a
man called Mahalalel is mentioned. Mahalalel means the Blessed God.
The Prophet Micah predicted a ruler whose activity and origin are from all
eternity. This could be a poetic way of saying that this man was special. He
more than any other man was the work of God and eternity is sometimes a synonym
for God. Christians assume it’s saying the ruler never had an origin and only
God has no origin so the ruler is God. But it does say he had an origin.
Christians say that when Jesus was worshipped that he never told the worshipper
they were wrong. First of all, the gospels make it clear we must worship God
only. So they didn’t need to tell us if Jesus did correct these people. Second,
Jesus was merely called a good teacher and he told the man off for saying that.
Third, we read of people making assumptions and Jesus despairingly not bothering
to waste time trying to correct them.
Let us now comb the Bible to see if Jesus thought he was God the Son, God
almighty. The Gospel of John is dealt with in my book John Gospel Denies Jesus
is God. In brief, that gospel says that Jesus was the incarnation of the Word,
the message of God and God is his message. But that is not the same as saying
that he is God. A saint who is not God can be the incarnation of the love of God
even though God is said in Christian belief to be love itself. When Jesus said
that before Abraham was I am and I am being the name of God in the Old Testament
he didn’t say he meant it in the sense that God meant it. Jesus said that he and
the Father are one but that could be a reference to his being the manifestation
of the Father for he said he is the image of the Father so that he who sees him
sees the Father. He said he wanted his followers to be one in the same way he
and the Father are one indicting that he didn’t mean that he was one nature with
the Father. Jesus denied he was God when he said his teaching was not his own
but the teaching of the Father.
Christians say that he means his teaching is not of human origin but divine. He
was saying his teaching was not from himself as man but himself as God. So they
turn it into a declaration that Jesus was God! But if you mean that you would
say that. You would not use cryptic clues like, “my teaching is not my own for
it is God’s”. To say my teaching is not mine but God’s is to deny that you are
God. Christians have to obscure their doctrine that Jesus was fully human and
fully divine and yet one person so that my referred to his personhood which was
both human and divine and pretend that he was like a pantomime horse half human
and half divine and was referring only to his man side.
Nothing in the gospels or New Testament or anywhere in the Bible declares Jesus
to have been God.
BIBLE DENIES DEITY
The Bible itself proves that the doctrine of a divine Christ was not in the
original Christian faith but was cooked up later on. This is not surprising when
Jesus did a lot of wrong things. Read my Sinner of God. It says he was a Zealot
so unlike a god he had to use force to achieve his aims. Read my Jesus the
Zealot.
Mark the first gospel gives no hint that Jesus was anything other than God's
right hand man but an ordinary man nonetheless. It is the later gospels that try
to turn him into something like a deity. In Mark, Jesus never calls God Father
or Daddy. Yet the doctrine that God is daddy is supposed to be fundamental. Its
absence from the gospel is telling.
Jesus based all his authority on the Law and the Prophets. He even said that we
should believe in his resurrection because of the prophets saying it would
happen and not even because witnesses were saying he rose – the witnesses are
worthless without the prophecies. How much credulous junk can one take? Anyway,
it is impossible to believe that Jesus could have thought he was God and
superior to the prophets when he did that. He did say he was wiser than Solomon
but maybe that was because Solomon didn’t have as much scripture. He did say he
was greater than Jonah but Jonah called a city to repentance and Jesus called
more than that.
If it is true as a growing number of orthodox Christians are coming to believe
that the Bible teaches that death is the complete cessation of existence then it
follows that the Christadelphians, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Dawn Bible Students
are right to say that Jesus could not be God for God could not die. It would
mean that Jesus would exist as God when his body and spirit were dead.
In Matthew and Luke, Jesus goes into the wilderness to fast for forty days. This
was after his baptism and before his ministry. It was a spiritual preparation
for that ministry. He was going to die for sinners so he had no need to fast for
them. God does not need retreats. It is significant that the gospel that exalts
Jesus the most, John, omits the temptations and fasting.
In Mark 10, James and John asked Jesus to seat them on each side of him when his
kingdom comes. Jesus replied that these seats were not his to give but were for
those they had been preserved for. Dubiously, Christians interpret this to mean
that the seats aren’t Jesus’ to give for they have already been given away. But
you don’t say anything is not yours to bestow when you mean it has already been
allocated. The verse means that Jesus can’t interfere with God’s decisions which
means he cannot be God. The interpretation has it that only those who have been
promised the seats can permit others to take them. God could change this if he
wishes and he is not going to. Jesus was not God for he makes it clear he cannot
think of changing. The people who will get the seats will be completely subject
to God and would give up the seats to James and John if God wanted them to. This
means that the seats must really be God’s to give. Jesus is denying that he is
God for if the seats are God’s to give and not his then he cannot be the same
being as God.
They claim that Jesus can’t give them away for Jesus is God and God can give
them to whomsoever he wishes. So Jesus as man cannot give them away but as God
he can. This splits Jesus up into two persons.
Jesus said that it was far worse to blaspheme God the Holy Spirit than to
blaspheme him (Matthew 12). If he had been God they would be equally bad.
Christians say that they are equally bad but that if one insults Jesus not
realising that he is God then it is not as bad. This is why they think Jesus
said that insulting the spirit was unpardonable but insulting him was
forgivable. This interpretation is wrong or Jesus never said that he meant those
who insulted the Son of Man in ignorance. Nobody says, “There is mercy for those
who offend me but none for those who offend God,” unless they meant the same
thing by “offend”. Jesus denied he was God or equal to the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said he did not know when the second coming would happen (Mark 13:32).
Some argue that know denotes make known not knows (page 41, Understanding the
Cults).
But even then it is saying that the Son can’t make it known for it is up to the
Father which makes the Son less than God. The Church says that we cannot
understand how Jesus could have been God and not know everything. We cannot
simply because it makes no sense. To be a person one must first have
consciousness. If Jesus did not know what God knows then they had two separate
consciousness and accordingly must have been two separate persons.
Mark 12:29-34 has Jesus telling a Jewish scribe that he is not far from the
kingdom of God because he told Jesus that he believed that God is one and must
be loved above all things and the neighbour must be loved for God’s benefit. By
kingdom of God, Jesus meant his own reign under God. If Jesus had been God he
would not have told the man he was close to this kingdom when the man did not
believe that about Jesus and had stated that God was one meaning literally one
person who was not incarnate in Jesus. The man just recited the main Jewish
beliefs which shows that Jesus wanted to create a kingdom based on the same
things.
In Luke 23:28, Jesus tells the women of Jerusalem not to weep for him but
themselves. God is infinitely valuable and persons are not so God would not have
told the women of Jerusalem to weep for themselves instead of God incarnate
going to the cross.
Acts 2:36 says that God made Jesus Lord. If Jesus were God he could not be made
Lord.
Acts 5:30-31 says that at the resurrection Jesus was exalted to be Prince and
Saviour. He would have been prince and saviour before that unless he was an
ordinary man who had to pass God’s test to become Messiah and saviour. Had the
author believed Jesus was God he would have been more careful with this material
in case the simple readers would have been misled. It means exactly what it
says.
Paul wrote that some day, the last day, Jesus would hand over the kingdom to God
and then be subject to God himself (1 Corinthians 15:24, 28). This proves that
he thought that though Jesus is sinless he isn’t always doing what God wants him
to do. He errs. The day will come when God magically enables him to suit himself
exactly so that God will be all in all. If Jesus were God he could not go wrong
for it is impossible for two conflicting minds to be one mind, one being. Paul
gave us the first existing Christian writings so the Church that sprang up after
Christ did not adore him as God.
Paul declared that Jesus was made the Son of God by his resurrection (Romans
1:4). Here, the Son of God means the one nearest and next to God. If Jesus was
God then he was always the Son of God. Paul is saying that Jesus was not God the
Son. Jesus could not have been God if he was not always the Son of God as in
chief man.
Paul stated that God knew how much he loved the Philippians (read chapter 1) and
he told them that he loves them AS Jesus Christ loves them. Clearly he is saying
that Jesus loves them as a good man like himself does. If Jesus is God his love
will be perfect and nobody could say they love others as he loves them. The
Catholic answer is that after saying that Paul tells them Jesus will work in
them to make them perfect for God. Thus they argue that Paul is clarifying that
his love is not as perfect as Jesus'. But Paul sees Jesus as God's instrument
thus Jesus could still be imperfect. If he produces perfection it is down to
God. The Catholic answer is to be rejected as it is reading later Catholic
doctrine into old documents. That is anachronistic.
Paul said that there could be no salvation for forgiveness without the death of
Jesus. He meant that it causes it in some way. He must have thought that it
earns it. If Jesus were God then one good deed would suffice to make up for an
infinity of sins because everything God does is infinitely valuable. The death
of Jesus would then be an act of insane bravado and needless in spiritual terms.
In Romans 8:31-34 we read that with God on the side of the followers of Christ
nobody can be against them. Since God gave up his own Son for them they can be
sure that he will not refuse them anything its lawful for him to give. Then it
asks rhetorically if anyone could accuse those that God has chosen? Could
anybody condemn a person when God acquits them? Could the Messiah Jesus condemn?
No for he not only died for the believers but rose from the dead and there at
the right hand of God he stands and pleads for them.
Study it carefully. If Jesus is God it would be absurd to ask if he can condemn
those who God has forgiven. It only makes sense if he is a separate person and
entity from God.
And also, the reason Christ doesn’t condemn is because he died for sinners and
rose again and intercedes now. It’s not because he was God the person who did
the acquitting. Christ could die for sinners and still condemn them. He can’t
intercede for sinners unless he sees them and judges them as sinners first which
illustrates this point. It’s Jesus’ actions that Paul uses as evidence that he
treats us as acquitted not his nature. This is very important. Paul believed as
a Jew that God forgave sins before Christ came. The Jews didn’t have any belief
in a Jesus dying and rising to save them. Paul says that if God acquits a person
even Jesus cannot condemn them afterwards so God could acquit in principle
without Jesus. And we know Jesus cannot condemn by his actions of love for
sinners. So God acquits just because God is nice and Jesus acquits because he
paid for sins. Clearly the two are separate beings and people.
Another observation is that if Jesus dying for us and rising and praying for us
proves he considers us acquitted then Jesus provided substitutionary atonement.
In other words he obeyed the demands of God’s law for us so that God could
overlook our UNREPENTED and our repented sins and blame him for them instead. We
know this because if Jesus only gave the benefits to repented sin as the
Catholic Church teaches then we have no reason to think that Jesus dying and
rising and praying proves that he doesn’t condemn us for he could be condemning
us for our unrepented sin and refusing his atonement to us. The chapter has the
idea of salvation by faith without any good works in mind. It’s pure
Protestantism.
And when Christ is at God’s right hand as if he is second in command that shows
he is not God. If Christ was God he would not be at God’s right hand of his
throne but on the throne. The Church says that as man Jesus is at God’s right
hand but as God he is on the throne. This is nonsense for since Jesus as man is
in perfect synchronicity with his divine nature and mind and is God and man in
one person there is no way Jesus can be in anyway inferior to God so that as man
he is seated at the right hand of God.
The idea of God acquitting and Jesus praying for us to keep us acquitted shows
that God and Jesus cannot be the same being for you have one disagreeing with
the other. Jesus can’t ask God to have mercy on us unless he thinks he knows
better than God and God should have mercy. He is correcting the all-knowing God!
The John Gospel says that God is the Word and the Word became flesh, Jesus. But
God in the Bible is identified with abstract things. It does not call Jesus God
but calls him the word. God being the word and Jesus being the word does not
mean Jesus is God.
The doctrine of a divine Christ is a heresy.