FORCIBLY DETAINED IN HELL AGAINST YOUR WILL?
Christians have a hard time explaining how God could be perfectly good and infinitely
powerful while some of his children languish forever in Hell.
They say that somehow the children are to blame.
But what if God forces them to stay?
He can do that against their will.
He can still force them in accordance with their will. It is still forcing if
you are sent to Hell though you ask for it when the asking is not a
consideration by God. It would be the same if you did not ask.
He can manipulate them so that they will not leave. That is forcing as well.
If there are people in Hell why do they stay there? The damned either want to
stay in Hell forever or are compelled to remain there by the magic power of God.
The latter is the favourite option. We want to know which is logical if any of
the options are.
Today we hear a lot that those in Hell are individualists - it is all about
what they want and what is in it for them. Seneca was clear that simply
working for your own happiness isolates you from others and you end up turning
yourself into your own prison. Hell then must be beings trying to be happy and
failing.
Some say that because sin is infinite in malice it has to be punished by
everlasting imprisonment in Hell. They argue that a finite being cannot take
unlimited punishment in one go therefore it has to be punishment that lasts
forever which adds up to the same thing. But God made infinite space so he can
change a finite being into one that can endure infinite torment in one instant.
If so then like any prison force is necessary.
God has four ways to force the damned to stay in Hell. He can keep them there
whether they like it or not or repent or not. Or he can program them to want to
stay. Or he can manipulate their free will and intelligence so that they stay
there freely. Or he can put them outside time so that they will be eternally or
timelessly damned.
The first is the biblical view. See Luke 16:19-31. There Abraham in Heaven
revealed to a rich man in Hell that anybody who wants to go from Heaven to Hell
or from Hell to Heaven cannot get across the great abyss. There is no hint that
the story is a parable. Jesus then told the story as a true story. The main
thought in the tale is how once you die and go to the place of suffering for sin
you cannot escape. The rich man wanted somebody to give him a drop of water on
his tongue for the pain was excruciating. Abraham didn't try to get help and
said it was impossible. So there was no way the rich man could get any relief at
all. The person in Hell is not there of their own free will anymore. The
modernist doctrine that Hell is just where you go when you finally reject God
and you make your own Hell can't be true for if you willingly reject God you
will want to make the best of it and enjoy it as best you can even if just to
spite him.
* Forced to Stay Whether Good or Bad?
Are the damned condemned to imprisonment in Hell whether they repent or not?
Christians recoil from this idea. But if anybody can be put in Hell forever it
hardly matters too much if one believes they could be there against their will.
It’s only a technicality and what is important is the everlasting nature of the
torment. Christians act as if it is more upsetting to refuse to let a prisoner
watch television than to imprison him for life. Will God refuse to forgive the
penitent or those who wish they had the grace to repent? If he does then he is
an evil God. It is better to forgive if forgiveness is moral as he says.
* He Can Program Them to Want to Stay.
This option suggests that God forces them to stay by making them want to stay.
But why make them want to stay? Would it be right to? And when they are
programmed that is not their real will to stay.
* Wills Fixed in Sin?
Does God prevent the damned from repenting by fixing their will in stubborn
impenitence for the sins they died in? The idea that their inability to repent
forces them to sin on would be ludicrous for they have no free will. Some
attempt to salvage the doctrine by saying the damned have free will in
everything except repenting the sins they went to Hell for. But this solves
nothing.
The moment their free will to repent any sin is removed they cease to be sinners
in relation to that sin so the idea of God punishing them for it by keeping them
in impenitence as an excuse is totally wrong. He would have to ensure that they
freely sin forever to keep punishing them.
If they are completely puppets to evil they can’t freely do evil and
consequently, can’t do good. No matter what a puppet has done in the past it is
not right to punish it. You can’t torture a murderer who is in a persistent
vegetative condition for his or her crime. God does not know what a puppet would
do, so he would have to take it that they would repent their sins and forgive
them. So, he can’t destroy the freedom of the damned for that would force him to
save them.
If God deprives the damned of the power to return to his friendship then he is
forcibly preventing their conversion. You can’t force a person to remain
impenitent for sin without being as bad as she or he is. If advising a person to
sin is as bad as the sin that the person commits as a consequence then this is
worse. This God is like a hypocrite. He condemns what is no better than what he
does. He is like one who hypnotises a friend to kill and then condemns him to
jail though he is the one who should be locked up.
Christians say that God owes nobody the chance and power to repent for we
deserve to be incarcerated in Hell forever. They argue that nobody can accuse
God of being unloving or unjust if he won’t enable them to turn their lives
around. If this is true then God owes it to himself and should give a hand. Only
an evil God who hates his own guts would behave that way.
Every sinner does have the right to be allowed to repent for it is better to
reform than not to. Christians are saying that persons have no rights at all for
if we haven’t that one then we have none. That is what the Hell doctrine says.
It makes mercy and forgiveness and reform immoral and stands self-condemned.
What should be done with the sinners in Hell is remove their free will and give
them a counterfeit of free will so that they cannot tell the difference. Then
they can be treated as good people. Then Hell can become a paradise for them.
They can be happy in Hell by having the programming changed.
The saints do not need to know that the damned are in pain and the damned are
not guilty anymore if free will has been removed. Why should it matter if the
damned are free or not as long as they think they are free? After all, nobody in
this world knows if they are free themselves. It could be a program in your head
mimicking what seems to be free will. So it makes no difference. The Hell
doctrine suggests that human beings have no rights at all when they don’t have
the right to be made happy by conversion into an unfree agent instead of
punished forever. If you deny that there is a Hell but still hold that sinners
should be eternally punished you are not much better than one who believes in
Hell. You are still denying that people have a right to be happy. Another
thought, it is possible for a person to deserve eternal punishing and God not
being able to carry it out for some reason. If that person pays some of the debt
of punishment then God has satisfied justice in the sense that he punished him
as far as he could. Therefore, since it is better to convert that person to a
good and happy unfree agent it follows that God can’t punish eternally.
Retribution should not be geared just towards punishment but should endeavour to
change the criminal for it is hypocrisy to punish crime and make little or no
effort to prevent it happening again. The doctrine of eternal damnation evilly
denies this. Jesus Christ taught eternal damnation so Jesus was a false prophet
and not really the Son of God. Even if Hell is empty he is still evil for making
such a place for he would use it if he had the chance.
Some religions hold that all people have merited rewards from God. If they have
then he owes them the grace of repentance. It may be answered that he doesn’t
for we did them by his grace but we still deserve them if we freely chose to do
the good. Our choice would mean that we would earn them if we could and that
stands for something. God has to accept efforts rather than successes.
If God is infinite love and is unlimitedly pleased by good and disgusted by evil
then a good work deserves an infinite reward and a mortal sin deserves infinite
torture. If sinners go to Hell the very least they are entitled to is the grace
of repentance. God would not be good if he took away a person’s eternal reward
to give them eternal punishment for it is evil to do evil when good may be done.
It is concentrating on the bad side.
God would be the true Devil if he could make a person sin for he would be as
responsible as the person would be if not more. Christianity says that God does
not hypnotise a person to make them sin but he just deprives them of his grace
without which nobody can repent and turn to him. That makes no difference. An
act of evil is as bad as the evil done by an omission.
* God Manipulates Persons so that they freely sin in Hell.
God can control thoughts and feelings to influence the will to go the way he
wants.
This is incompatible with the doctrine that God cannot tempt that we see in the
first chapter of the letter of St James. The Bible says that God cannot tempt
but this would be worse than temptation. A good God can’t urge people to sin
against him. The Bible says that God cannot tempt and then it says that demons
tempt us. When the demons are in Hell why are they allowed to tempt us? Because
God wants to respect their free will? But the purpose of respecting free will is
so that we might love. Demons cannot love so that excuse does not apply in this
case. Since demons do not need to be able to tempt and God says that temptation
is bad and that even he cannot do it for a greater purpose meaning that nothing
justifies temptation even if it does make us stronger it follows that God can
evilly manipulate the damned to stay in Hell. It is the biblical answer.
Since God is causing an infinity of sins rather than preventing repentance for a
limited number of sins this theory is worse than the last one.
* Mystery of sin
The doctrine that sin is a mystery and that is the reason if you die in it you will never abandon it implies that it is possible that somebody could be predestined to separation from God in this life (Calvinists say just that very thing!). In fact it is cruel to say that this should only happen when you die. And it creates the suspicion that you are only using death as the cut off for nobody can check it out.