JESUS WAS MORALLY DE-SENSITISED AND SPREAD THAT COLDNESS TO SOCIETY
Jesus infamously made the rule that if somebody hits you on one cheek you must turn the other.
People argue that this is a personal situation, between you and another. They try to distance it from nations working out if they need to go to war against an enemy or an invader. This is rubbish for you can see nation against nation as being individuals in one going against individuals in another. A nation is a gathering of individuals at the end of the day.
A country is like a person in the sense that a limited company is.
You have people saying we should be neutral. But being neutral when the invaders are coming is hardly sensible.
A nation may declare “war” against its own and torture them to death. When that happens you cannot say, “I will have no opinion on it until somebody shows me it is wrong and needs stopping by force.” Or it may pick on the people of a surrounding nation. Again being neutral shows you don’t care. So whether you do nothing or whether you wage war against them there is a war. There is death either way. The argument only wants to put you off defending the innocent.
Jesus sure enough never gave his people or his own family one word of compassion about how they were oppressed by the Roman occupiers. His country was littered with crosses with innocent Jews on them. He never mentioned Rome's antisemitism and racism.
That is what is presented as good model for society. We can get angry at this for it is about society and not just religion.
We can object strongly to a man being that cold and yet honoured as the image of God and his son. That is blatant approval of his evil.
The Bible which Jesus declared infallible and to be of divine authorship as
much as human has God commanding his people to stone certain sinners to death.
God and Jesus commanded corrupt rebellious Israel to kill and administer extreme
capital punishment. That says it all! Bad enough to ask a holy nation to do it!
Here are the crimes demanding execution by divine command. The execution was
typically performed by stoning. A naughty daughter of a priest was however
burned to death.
Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)
Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)
Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1
Samuel 28:9)
Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
Prostitution by a priest's daughter (Leviticus 21:9)
Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19)
False claim of a woman's virginity at time of marriage (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)
Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed
(Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
Christians are not disgusted enough by the murderous laws of the Old Testament
in which God commanded that gays and other "sinners" be stoned to death to hate
the Bible.
God in Numbers 23:3-4 wants people impaled - so why don't we consider declaring
that Vlad Dracula the Impaler was divine or God's servant?
The first step to religious violence is in justifying religious violence that
has already taken place or that is happening. Christian peace is not real peace.
A religion condoning great evil cannot boast even if it is not that violent.
What about the principle? Is the reason it seems to behave most of the time
because it deals with its desire for blood by condoning? Condoning can be
passive aggression. Violence in spirit is nothing to boast about. It is still
violence. It is only chance that is stopping it turning into actual raw and
physical violence.A religion of peace that is passive aggressive is not a
religion of peace at all. It is a religion of cold war.
Jesus supported and enjoyed the Jewish Festivals which glorified suffering sent
by God and violence. The Passover celebrates how God's angel murdered the
firstborn of Egypt.
Jesus took responsibility for writing the Old Testament through divinely
inspired men despite its commanding in the name of God that homosexual men who
have had sex and other "sinners" be savagely murdered by stoning. He said that
not a dot of it would pass away until God fulfilled it - meaning God fully
approves of it. If God changes a law, it is not because he thinks it was wrong
before.
It is not true that Jesus dropped the murderous obligations laid down by God.
Jesus celebrated the feast of death, the Passover and based the Eucharist on it
according to the Church. The feast praised God for killing innocent children in
Egypt and was based on that event. God was trying to force Egypt to let Israel
go free from slavery. Neither Jesus or the Eucharist deserve any respect for
honouring evil.
Jesus told the Jews off in the gospel of John for not believing the books of
Moses - the lawbook that commanded stoning. "But do not think I will accuse you
before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. If you
believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do
not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?” See John
5:46-47. Here he makes Moses as much the word of God as himself. The idea is
that the same Father, God, tells both what to say.
Jesus said in Mark 12:24 that if you don't know the [Old Testament] scriptures
you will be mistaken about what God does.
Jesus Christ: “I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but
from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But
these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here
and slay them in my presence." (Luke 19:26-27)
"Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two
or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be
punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy
thing the blood of the covenant that sanctifies him, and has insulted the spirit
of grace? For we know God who said, "It is my job to avenge and I will repay!" -
Hebrews 10.
Christians boast that they do not have to keep the law from God about stoning
homosexuals and others to death for Jesus did away with it. But the text above
tells them that such an abolition is no consolation for God will still have them
punished if not by others then he will do it himself. And indeed the text says a
fate worse than stoning awaits.
The law of Moses claimed to be divinely inspired. It required that gays who had
sex and adulterous people and murderers must be put to death by stoning without
mercy. The above New Testament text says that they deserve it. It also says that
those who know Jesus and who sin deserve worse. The sins listed in Hebrews are
purely religious ones - insulting Jesus and treating his blood with contempt.
God said he will take revenge. The text does not say he will take revenge
himself without using us to do it. In fact, he said it when he was using Israel
to punish people by application of the law of Moses. So the text means he will
use the Church to destroy his enemies.
Paul wrote in Romans 1 that everybody knows that homosexuals and other sinners
should be destroyed - deserving to die means they are forcing God to kill them.
"Knowing the judgment of God, that those who commit such things are worthy of
death, they not only do the same, but have pleasure in those who do them". The
text could be speaking of God's law that homosexuals are to be murdered by
stoning. It probably is - he was speaking to the Jewish Christians of Rome who
are obviously familiar enough with the Old Testament for he talks to them as if
they know it well.
The death penalty under divine law is not optional nor a maximum penalty.
Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.... You shall have the same
law for the [foreigner] and for one from your own country; for I am the Lord
your God." Lev. 24:17-22.
'Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of
death, but he shall surely be put to death... So you shall not pollute the land
where you are; for blood defiles the land, and no atonement can be made for the
land, for the blood that is shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it.'
Num. 35:31-33
Christians then do not oppose the stoning in principle. They do not see it as
wrong in itself. When God takes life, it is easy to take the next step and say
stoning cannot be wrong in principle. He might command you to stone when he is
master of death and life. If you think you can kill and God approves and you are
wrong it is not very wrong! Not when God is okay with killing in general and
uses your mistakes in his divine and all-wise plan.
The Christians approve of keeping the rule about stoning but up to when Jesus
(allegedly) abolished it.
Jesus even if he did abolish it, did not state that the rule was wrong. Changing
the law, does not necessarily mean it was wrong before but only that it is time
for a change. And it could be that the law was not abolished but just didn't
apply in Jesus' day. A law going out of date does not mean the law is being
changed. And God keeping the law to kill for us means it is in force.
Jesus supposedly abolished the stoning law in John 8 when he told people who
were going to stone a woman to death for adultery that the first stone should be
cast by the person without sin. But this case had nothing to do with the law. It
was a lynch mob who wanted to stone her not the proper authorities. And he did
say the sinless person had a right to stone her. The episode confirms the
validity of the stoning law.
Christians are not disgusted by Jesus who refused that stoning adulteresses
was wrong and who said that stoning is fine as long as you shouldn't be stoned
yourself! The woman was so traumatised that you cannot assume Jesus let
her go scot-free. He did not say he did but told her not to sin again in
other words rubbing it in.
According to Jesus, Matthew 10:28 New International Version (NIV), Jesus was so
desensitised to executions that he said, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the
body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both
soul and body in hell." One would wonder that when Jesus would have at least as
an ordinary Jew before his ministry believed that cutting people's hands off for
stealing was God's will, if he did not mean it literally when he said that if
you sin with your eye you must cut it out.
The claim that the murderous Old Testament laws were only for people living
centuries before Jesus is easily refuted. Jesus told the Jews off for not
stoning people to death if they cursed their parents, "Why do you also
transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded,
saying... `He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' But you
say..." Matthew 15:3-4. "For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the
tradition of men..." [Jesus] said to them, "All too well you reject the
commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. For Moses said, 'Honor
your father and your mother; and 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put
to death.'" Mark 7:8-11. Note that he was very angry that they annulled the
murderous command.
We must remember that the command in the ten commandments to honour your father
and mother is the positive version which is prompted by and related to the
negative versions, "Whoever hits father or mother shall be put to death". "Who
so curses father or mother shall be put to death." The commandments are all the
same so the one in the ten is endorsing the death penalty.
In Luke 19:27 Jesus speaks of himself as the one who is going to have those who
do not want him to rule them slain. He even says he wants to watch them being
killed and for them to be brought before him. You might say he did not mean it
literally. But then why did he not speak of having those people expelled from
the nation or society or something? Why killing? If you think you can imagine it
is not literal don't think you have the right to tell somebody not to take it
literally and to start lusting for blood.
The notion that the stoning command was abolished is based on the idea that the
law was a civil law. But there is no evidence for the law being merely civil law
at all in the Old Testament. It was religious law. There is nothing that
indicates that the law only applied in the day it was written. That God put it
in the Bible implies that it wasn't. If you were God, you could imagine yourself
giving such awful commandments by revelation to a prophet but you would keep
them out of the scriptures if they were temporary. It is not the kind of thing
that should be in a holy book.
Even if the stoning law was a civil law, it was also a moral law. In other
words, if there is no civil law demanding stoning, then stone them for the sake
of the moral law. Civil and moral laws may at times be identical. The Law of
Moses has God stating that if homosexuals are stoned to death their own blood is
upon them. In other words, it was not the law to blame for stoning them but
themselves for doing something so evil. They are morally intolerable.
Christians use the God has mysterious ways excuse a lot for terrible doctrines.
Jesus said that God was like a human father, daddy, meaning that he rejected
far-fetched excuses and doctrines about mysterious ways as showing how a good
God could allow or command evil. He assumed it was straightforward. To him, God
was obviously right to have say gay people stoned to death. Jesus in Matthew
7:9-11 said that God is actually better at giving good things to his child than
a human father is. He will not give you a stone if you ask for bread.
Significantly the Jewish leaders tell Jesus he does not change God’s teaching to
suit man and truly follows the Jewish faith (Mark 12:14). In other words, he
supported the law with its predominately nasty rules from God to the hilt.
If religion commands you to condone violence thousands of years ago can the
religion be used as an excuse for violence? No it is not an excuse - it is a
reason. You cannot put violence in people's hearts and then pretend that it is
not your fault if they act on it.
Good is not good when mixed with evil for that is what evil does. It likes to
hide and sting unexpectedly. That is why the Bible should be called evil instead
of pretending there is good in it. The good in the Bible is not the Bible’s
good.
Christians say God now punishes and gives the death penalty himself but that is
them being violent by proxy. That is the most important lesson to take away from
reading this page.
And it is Jesus' fault.