EVIDENCE THAT CHRIST NEVER DIED ON CROSS
The gospels say that a miracle healing man called Jesus Christ lived. They say
he died by crucifixion and three days later he rose again. The tomb he was
placed in was found wide open with the stone that had been across the entrance
moved back and the tomb was mysteriously empty. His body was gone. Certain
witnesses claimed that Jesus appeared to them as a resurrected being.
EVIDENCE FOR A LEGEND
The Gospels claim that the cross was forecast in the Old Testament centuries before Jesus was fastened to it. If this forecast is down to misinterpretation or lies then that is evidence and a strong indication that Jesus was never nailed.
There is no evidence that Jesus had feet with nail holes apart from a passage in Psalm 22 dubiously translated as they have thrust through my hands and feet and I can number all my bones that the Bible never says means Jesus.
The Bible uses bits of the Psalms as alleged prophecies and discards unsuitable bits even when they refer to the same person so the fact that some bits of the Psalm were taken to be about Jesus does not mean that the whole lot was. People on a diet like Jesus’ could surprise you with what they can do despite serious wounds (The Turin Shroud is Genuine, page 139).
Is Psalm 22:21 which reads in the King James as “Save me from the lion’s mouth:
for thou has heard me from the horns of the unicorns” a good reading? It is
poetry so you cannot pay too much attention to the wording being strange. The
subject is in danger from wild animals and so is not Jesus Christ. Unicorns may
mean oxen not the mythical creature. If it does mean the latter then the psalm
has no credibility as a prophecy for it cannot get the present right so why
trust it with the future?
Luke says the risen Jesus showed his friends his hands and his feet but here could have been rope marks or anything on them. The ropes would cut into the flesh with the endless pushing up and down on the cross to relieve the lungs and the muscles.
Luke never says that the Lord was nailed which is a strange omission for a gospel that endeavours to prove that Jesus rose. Luke is probably inferring that he was not nailed. And many were often just tied to the cross. The apostles had nothing to do with any gospel that fails to prove that Jesus was dead for that was their job to prove that and to verify the resurrection.
Zechariah has a text that could have been used to bolster up the nail wounds or
piercing legend. Translators do not agree on if Zechariah 13:6 means
wounds on the chest or hands. Or just the body. So why do Christians and
gospellers ignore that text and why was it not used instead of the Psalm or
alongside it? The wounds are got in the house of his friends. Maybe
if Jesus had been attacked in the Temple or murdered by his own disciples.
That is what put them off. It did not fit the intended plotline.
THE SKELETON OF GIVA'AT HA-MITVAR, JERUSALEM
Charles Foster writes Jehohanan the name of the crucified man who has left remains was nailed in the ankles and had not been nailed at all in the forearms. "Presumably Jehohanan's arms had been tied in place. Tying is known to have been common" (page 49, 68 The Jesus Inquest).
No remains of a crucifixion victim were ever found until this man's were. This alone shows that despite the countless victims of that method of death the chance of a shroud for Jesus turning up are slim. The bones were in a burial box. He was about 5 foot five inches tall. He was in his twenties. He had broken shins which seems to remind us of John's gospel saying that the soldiers broke the legs of men who were taking too long to die on the cross. The nail was found in the ankle and was bent like it had hit a knot in the wood of his cross. We do not know how he came to be taken from his cross or buried. We don't know how his arms were fastened to the cross. He could have been tied.
The remains seem to show us that a seat or sedile was used for the victim to sit on. This took the form of a board to sit on or it could have been a bar jutting out that the groin rested on. If Jesus had had a seat, if his feet were fastened to the cross by being crossed with a board with a nail in it which did not touch the feet or which did them no serious damage he could have survived the crucifixion easily. The board crossing the feet would have ground down his flesh leaving a slash perhaps down to the bone on the top of the feet. Jesus’ marks in the feet might have been minor which would satisfy the prophecy in Psalm 22 where someone seems to say the subject will have his hands and feet wounded. Psalm 22 pictures its subject as walking and praying with the people later without any hint of a resurrection so his feet were relatively fine. It was not a nailing then it had in mind.
HOW WAS JESUS NAILED?
Let us see how Jesus’ position on the cross gives us grounds for suspicion.
Jesus could have been nailed facing the cross which would
have made him harder to recognise for his face would have been covered by the
vertical post and the crossbeam and maybe by the strange sign that Pilate put
up. It could have been somebody else.
The first representation and description of the
crucifixion, a picture drawn on a pillar in Rome from 193 to 235 AD mocking
Jesus, shows Jesus with a donkey’s head standing on a shelf while on the cross.
Some say his hands must be nailed for no ropes were drawn but it was a quick
drawing and the details about nails and ropes would have been left out. A Roman
would know how Jesus had been crucified. The earliest description comes first.
If his feet were nailed to a shelf they would not have been seriously harmed for
the victim would not be pushing up and down on the hand wounds making them worse
and unbearably painful. So if Jesus’ hands were nailed they would have been fine
apart from being very painful. However, there no cause to assume that any
nailing at all took place in regard to Jesus.
The Jehovah’s Witnesses think that Jesus was nailed to a
post without a crossbar. Their reason is that the cross was a religious symbol
even in pre-Christian times. It is just prejudice. The Bible says that Jesus was
nailed to a tree (Acts 13:29) but a crossbar could still have been used. If the
tree was alive its leaves would have been a good cover for the victim if he was
impersonating Jesus or any other form of trickery.
THE NAIL WOUNDS
Is the picture we have of a Jesus who was nailed hand and feet to the cross
accurate or another unwarranted legend?
Only the John Gospel seems to say that Jesus had nail
marks in his hands and was nailed. The other gospels only say he was crucified
and most victims were simply tied to the cross. Jesus was probably tied if the
modern scholars who think that Pilate was in a catch-22 situation (that he
wanted to save Jesus but was forced to decree his crucifixion) are right. Pilate
may have wished to prevent Jesus dying quickly so that he could be taken down if
his fans came out in force. The gospel reports that Thomas said he would have to
see the wounds and Jesus showed him his hands. This seems to make it probable
that John means that Jesus showed him the nail marks unless Jesus was sure
Thomas would not want to see any more or be cruel. It seems unlikely that John
would be simply reporting that Thomas thought there were nail marks not knowing
that the only marks Jesus could show him were rope-marks but maybe John did not
know what kind of marks Thomas meant. Jesus was a carpenter since childhood and
one would expect him to have nail-marks from accidents. These could have been
the wounds Thomas was looking for. They probably were for John never mentions a
nailing to the cross which is strange since he details the stabbing of Jesus on
the cross. Anyway if I am wrong, only Thomas bears witness to the hand wounds
and he was an unreliable witness for he had previously scoffed at the apostles’
testimony and we have in John’s gospel what could be a second hand or third hand
or even hundredth hand testimony that Thomas saw the wounds. And it is not said
that Thomas ever said he saw the wounds. This story is full of the hallmarks of
fraud and deceit for it has no concern for real evidence or honesty nor can it
refer to anything that is verifiably a document from Thomas. You will see the
same pattern in the entire New Testament which suggests strongly that Jesus
never existed for the evidence had to be fabricated and had to blatantly break
the rules for what evidence should be so it should not count as evidence at all.
John only says that Thomas said that he could put his
finger in the nail marks (John 20:25, RSV, Catholic Edition) which does not mean
he thought he could push the finger right through the hands. The soft flesh of
the finger would press a tiny bit into the mark. Touching the mark firmly would
be described by many as putting your finger into the mark and it is in a sense.
The feet were probably just tied to the cross for the
gospels would not be able to resist telling us about the nailed feet. They knew
nailed feet would make it a bit more likely that Jesus really died.
The women who grabbed the risen Christ by the feet in
Matthew 28 would not have done so had there been nail wounds in them. This would
mean that the man was an impostor or an illusion if Jesus had been nailed in the
feet.
Even if he had been nailed hand and foot these injuries should not have killed him. He could not have bled to death. It was asphyxiation and not the loss of blood that crucified people died from. The suggestion that Jesus would have died of bleeding or of cold on the cross or in the tomb is mere conjecture.
Suppose the Thomas episode does show Jesus was nailed by
the hands. Why is the only reference this Jesus coming from a vision? The
fact remains that this reference John 20:25 alone mentions nailing and even then
we are not told for sure Jesus was nailed to the cross alive. What if he was
roped on and somebody said, "He is dead up there a few hours. Nail him." What if
his enemies realising he was not nailed asked for him to be nailed as a
desecration? A vision is no ground for holding that Jesus was nailed to the
cross. Why did even John not tell us he was nailed when he was going into such
other detail about the passion of Jesus?
WAS JESUS FATALLY WOUNDED IN THE SIDE?
The assertion of many that if Jesus was alive when
stabbed with the lance the lance savaged Jesus's pericardium which would have
finished him off. The pericardium is around the heart and blood and water will
appear if it is stabbed. The objection to this being certain is that John did
not get the witness from a soldier but said it himself. It is like a man asking
you to listen to him instead of sending you to the policeman who was there.
Another bigger objection is that John would not have been allowed to stand that
close to see. How good was his eyesight? It would take very close
inspection. Blood mixed with water is hard to make out most of the time.
And the pericardium scenario is only one of many - including some non-fatal -
possibilities.
DID PASSION KILL JESUS?
If Jesus died on the cross that would have been a miracle
for unless he was poisoned there was nothing done to him that need have killed
him.
Jesus said that he was sorrowful even unto death in the
garden prior to his arrest (Matthew 28:38). He meant that the sorrow could kill
him. But he does not say it would kill him. If cancer could kill you and you do
something about it, it could and couldn’t kill you at the same time. The agony
in the garden gives us no reason to suppose that it led to Jesus’ premature
death on the cross. The scholars who suppose that Jesus had had a heart attack
in the Garden under the pressure are merely assuming. Jesus recovered well
enough to endure his scourging and the mocking and to carry the cross a bit, his
health was fine.
The scourging at the pillar need not have made Jesus die
faster on the cross for it was part of the standard procedure and many lasted
for several days on a cross after it. Pilate probably would have made the men go
easy on Jesus if the gospels are right to say that Pilate wished him no harm.
Some say that the scourging could have been worse than that that was usually
meted out for Pilate hoped to make the Jews pity Jesus and relent. The gospels
would tell us if it was for they liked to present the Jews as monsters and
anyway it was not hard to make a scourging look worse than it did especially
when the people would have seen Jesus on a balcony at a distance. Jesus was
scourged and Pilate sought to release him after it. Pilate who knew that the
Jews who believed in stoning people to death would not have been that easily
manipulated. They had made up their minds that they wanted Jesus to die a cruel
death.
If Simon of Cyrene really helped carry Jesus’ cross for
him then that would have made Jesus strong enough to survive the crucifixion.
We have no evidence that Jesus took a heart attack or was
poisoned or nailed or seriously injured and that that was why he died. These
possibilities have to be ignored for they are only speculation. We have to work
on the records.
Jesus yelled before he apparently died. He should have
died of suffocation if he should have died at all. Crucifixion killed its
victims by the pressure it put on the chest and they kept having to rise up and
down on the cross to relieve the pressure and eventually they got too exhausted
to do that and asphyxiated. But back to Jesus, then he could not have yelled.
This suggests that the death was merely a faint. It certainly suggests that he
wasn’t nailed and or that he had a sedile to rest on for he would have died of
suffocation then and been unable to shout.
The gospels never say the Romans who crucified him wanted him dead and it is admitted that Jesus had at least one ally among them who would certainly have wanted him to make it.
Resurrection is anastasis which means standing up.
It describes what happens when you have been raised and the word for that
is egeiro. So raising and
resurrecting are not the same thing.
Please read Jesus’ Resurrection: Fact or Figment. Other scholars notice a
difference too. The word translated resurrection or resurrected is
anhistemi which means to wake up (page 201, Jesus Lived in India). You do not
need to be dead to wake up so there was no inevitable death. The word anastasis
for physical body coming back to life was not used at all in the New Testament
which does not fare well for Christian theology (Did Jesus Really Rise from the
Dead? from the www)
John records that Jesus crucified handed over his spirit
to God praying, “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.” But the living do
that too. It was a quote from the Psalms and this Psalm was written for a man
offering his life to God WITHOUT any notion of dying. Is this a clue that Jesus
never died? Jesus said he would lay down his life to take it up again (John
10:17) which could just mean he would do it on the last day.
John has Jesus telling the apostles that he will go away to prepare a place for them and come back for them. The Church interprets this as referring to preparing a place in Heaven for them after he goes away from the world by dying on the cross. But Jesus has no need to take time to prepare a place for God who empowers can make a place just with a snap of his fingers. Moreover, Heaven should be prepared already like a B&B that is ready for anybody who is suitable to avail of it. What Jesus is saying is that he will survive the cross and where he goes to hide after the apostles will follow. He will go to live far away and they will join him.
St Sebastian was tied to a post and shot with countless arrows by the experts
and left for dead. Irene found he was in fact alive and rescued him and nursed
him back to health. He was met by his enemies when he was out for a walk
and was battered to death and dumped in a sewer. If Sebastian could
survive worse than Jesus then Jesus could have survived the cross.
Conclusion: There is no evidence that Jesus really died on the
Cross. It is possible that he was taken from the cross alive or was never in
fact crucified. Or he may have been crucified but not nailed. Legend says Andrew
the Apostle survived on the cross two days and we know Pilate reacted with shock
at Jesus dying so quick. No wonder he was able to show up again soon
after! But it could be that Jesus did not die on the cross and was taken away
while some or all of the appearances of him were just religious delusions.
We can assume any one of these without saying that there are errors in the Bible
but just saying that its interpretation of what happened was right.