Did Jesus frown upon the idea of female ordination?
The Bible never mentions women being ordained to the ministry. There are texts saying that women must not speak to Church meetings and leave it to men. Jesus according to the gospels promised to give all the truth and thus he took responsibility for what the apostles taught. They had no women clergy and the Churches they founded only ordained men.
Rome lays the blame for its sexism on Jesus. She claims that he didn’t ordain
women but the Bible, the only source, doesn’t say that he ordained anybody to
any sacramental ministry. If he did, then he might have ordained women for the
fact that the Bible doesn’t mention anything means nothing. Rome is guessing so
she is anxious to condemn women priests no matter what. The fact that the Bible
opposes women speaking in Church does imply that women priests is wrong but the
Church always ignored that rule so it cannot depend on it to refute the
legitimacy of female priesthood.
Women priests serving paganism were all over the place so though the Jews
wouldn’t have liked it, Jesus would have ordained women if he had any regard for
women or considered them to be as intelligent as men. Jewish tradition would not
have deterred him for he was eager to break it all the time anyway (Mark 7). The
Law of Moses restricted the priesthood to men but Jesus was starting his own so
it could not stop him from raising women to the priesthood and as long as the
women were observed and bossed by male priests the divine order that man is the
head of woman and the superior sex could be maintained. God could have corrected
what was wrong with ordaining women before Jesus or perhaps it corrected itself.
Consider this argument, “Jesus might have declined to ordain women for some
purpose way back then which doesn’t imply that he doesn’t want them ordained
today.”
But we can’t depend on it too much for we have no evidence that he has such a
purpose in this. It may not be unlikely that he has a purpose. But it looks
unlikely to us for the Son of God has power over all things and could have seen
to it that the ordaining of women would assist his plan.
If Jesus did forbid the ordination of women then he was not the Son of a good or
sensible God. Rome knows fine well how laughable her arguments are. She has no
love for women when she has to resort to fraud and slander to keep them out of
the priesthood.
BIBLE KNOWS ONLY OF MEN MINISTERS
The Bible says that only men can be made ministers or bishops.
1 Timothy 3 says that a bishop and then a deacon must be a man and a married one
at that for experience of family life is required to serve a spiritual family.
Ordained women argue that it may just have been the rule in Ephesus where
Timothy was that women were not for ordination. When the ministry of
prophetesses and female clergy were common among the pagans there could have
been no such limitations. And Christian priests who were not even called priests
at the time could have included a female minister for it was so different from
pagan priesthood. Ephesus was a centre of pagan worship of the goddess Diana. If
you believe the author was prompted by God, then God would have told the author
to work so that the time would come when women could be ordained. Clearly, the
only rule was that no woman could ever be ordained under any circumstances.
There are deaconesses mentioned in the Bible but these were women who did
charity work. The deacons had the same job originally. When the Timothy passage
states that the deaconate is for men it shows that the office was changed and
evolved into a spiritual ministry. They were probably preachers now and the fact
that women could no longer become deacons shows that women could not become
priests or preach. Tradition has it that the role of the deacon is to preach and
help the priest but the deacon can only give one sacrament, baptism. They can
officiate at marriage which is a sacrament that the bride and groom bestow on
one another.
Loyalty to the Bible commands opposition to female clergy or preachers but
loyalty to goodness commands opposition to this revolting male chauvinism.
The Catholic Church is addicted to power. It would gain more of it than it could
handle if it ordained women. But to ordain women now would be admitting that
past tradition was heretical and that she is neither infallible nor Catholic. A
truly Catholic Church could not ever have believed that women are excluded from
holy orders. Catholic means open to all and accepting of all. Apologists say
that the Church is Catholic for it cannot admit everybody into the ministry. The
fact of the matter is that it is not Catholic if it debars unjustly. The true
Catholic Church has to be Catholic so Roman Catholicism is non-Catholic.
WOMEN BARRED FROM MINISTRY
“Let a woman learn in quietness, in entire submissiveness. I allow no woman to
teach or to have authority over men; she is to remain in quietness and keep
silence [in religious assemblies]. For Adam was first formed, then Eve; And it
was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and deluded and
fell into transgression. Nevertheless they will be…saved…through the
Child-bearing” (1 Timothy 2:11-15).
The original Greek says that the man and women here are married to one another.
It is husbands and wives it is about not males and females.
The verse most likely means that women are not allowed to teach religion to
their husbands. And Eve manipulated Adam so it is taken by the Church nowadays
to refer to manipulative teaching and authority and that these are being
condemned. The word for “have authority over” is authentein which denotes using
sex charms to get one’s own way. But when the verse says women will be saved by
having children and not by teaching in a godly way which it would do if it
allowed that it follows that the text is saying that all female authority and
preaching over men is manipulation and is forbidden. The argument against women
being teachers of religion to men is based on the doctrine that Adam was made
first and then his wife was made. So Adam is more important than his wife. It
makes it clear that woman is never allowed to teach religion to men or to be a
minister. However the text does allow women to teach women.
It is ridiculous to suggests that women were just banned from teaching heresy to
men for it couldn’t have just been men that were led astray by women. Women lead
other women to heresy too. And heresy was not even mentioned.
Why would the author stress Adam being made before Eve as proving that women
should not be preaching in Church unless he believed the Genesis account that
Adam being made first showed that Adam was more important and that the woman was
only made for the animals were unsuitable companions meaning that it was Adam
God wanted to make and not Eve? It was Adam God wanted to have a relationship
with and not Eve so only men can speak for God. The author has proved that he
thinks that all preaching by women is heretical or manipulative simply because
it is not a woman’s place to preach and God does not like it. There is no reason
to think that by women manipulating men with sex-charms he means women stripping
off and tantalising men in an obvious brazen way. He knows that men like women
and even in seemingly chaste and unsexy situations female sex-charms still work
on men and are always manipulation for men have to think clearly and not be
influenced by their liking for women at all. Even just a woman looking for a few
seconds into a man’s eyes would count as authentein in his logic for it is that.
The writer says that Eve was a transgressor and was deceived unlike Adam and
that yet woman meaning the women born since and who are yet to be born will be
saved by bearing children if they continue in great virtue. The passage is
saying that women are all Eves and since they lead men astray though the men
would not normally be deceived you cannot let them into positions of trust such
as into the clergy. He clearly indicates that Adam was not fooled but the woman
was and beguiled him and that all women are the same that women are a danger to
men and need to be occupied with babies and good works to keep them out of
mischief.
Despite being Eves, women will be saved by bearing children. By saved he means
saved from evil rather than sin for only repentance saves from sin. The evil
they are to be saved from is being out of place in God’s plan so having babies
and not teaching is their job.
If the Bible says that men and woman are to pray everywhere as some translations
have it at 1 Timothy 2:8, 9 then there is no conflict with women not being
allowed to say anything in Church. The verses are not concerned about Church
services. It may say everywhere but that may not include Churches. There was no
need to insert “but not in Churches” for those familiar with the laws would have
known that it meant everywhere but the Church during a service. Anyway women
were expected to pray silently in Church so there is no problem.
There is not a single instance of ministering women in the Bible and nothing
that says that women have a right to teach religion. There were prophetesses who
let God speak through them but who did not speak for him but that is all.
Priscilla and her husband Aquila instructed Apollos in the Christian faith (Acts
18:26). Instructed could mean they taught him by letting God do the talking
through them. Women could only pray in public if God spoke through them or if
they were using prayers got from men for prayers refer to religious teaching.
God says that true prayer is inspired by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:3;
Romans 8:26).
Were women urged to say nothing in Church and debarred from the ministry to
please a sexist society until times would change? The Christians were hated
anyway (1 Corinthians 4:13) and upset people with their teaching of the cross of
Christ (1 Corinthians 1) so that can’t be correct. The rules were for all the
Churches many of which were in places that did not treat women that way. It is
not right to pander to cruel customs by keeping them. The Church didn’t want to
be accused of the hypocrisy of furthering sexism while preaching against it did
it? The exclusion of women was not a custom but a moral principle.
The Bible never says women must submit to men for it is the culture. What it
says is that such submission is for the Lord (Colossians 3:18). It would be
insane to imagine that God will care about culture more than principles.
No real woman would be a Bible Christian or a lover of the Bible God. She is a traitor to her sex.