What is a basic belief and is God a basic belief?
Heart of the matter
Christian: Saying science is the most important set of truths or alone is the truth is nonsense. Science is a method and there are non-scientific truths such as the love of Jesus that are as important or more important.
Scientist: The method is superior to any other method. The biggest truth is that science uses the best method. The method of testing is the truth of truths. Science the method is superior to science the content. Tested content that may be wrong is always superior to untested or untestable content. The fact that testing is needed is superior to anything else. God by definition is the being that alone ultimately matters. God cannot matter for he is not about being tested or testing.
Religion lies that science and religion can fit. Religion does not truly respect science though it may exploit it for its purposes.
God cannot give you a rational foundation for anything or any belief. Trying to make out he does is just attacking the need for basic belief. It's about God-ideology.
What is a basic belief?
We all have beliefs that are the basis for the rest of the stuff we believe. We
believe the fire will burn us if we touch it even though we cannot prove or show
it will necessarily burn us if we touch it now. If we believed nobody
could be trusted at all we would never be able to learn and develop true
beliefs. Trusting some people at least, is an example of a basic belief. It
means we trust ourselves enough to trust others. It is only you who can decide
if others should be believed and to what extent. Trust of yourself first and
then trust of other people is belief and the foundation of your other beliefs.
Philosophers agree that we can give no reasons why reason and the senses and the
memory and science can be true so they hold that they are believed in without
reasons and because we need to believe them for if we don’t we will
psychologically know and believe nothing.
Christian philosopher Alvin Plantinga thinks that God is a basic belief because if there is a good God who has made us then we can depend on reason and the senses and memory and on science for he is honest and has made them reliable.
Now to believe in a force that made things evolve and
which is as impersonal as electricity and which cannot mislead us would be a
better idea for it is simpler and there is no need for a good God. This power
would not be God. One can simply believe that the senses are real and have
taught us reason. You know that when you see blue you really see blue even if
the blue object does not exist and is an illusion so you know you should trust
the senses that far. This is wiser than complicating things with a God you
cannot give evidence for. God is a complication and therefore CANNOT be a
necessary or basic belief. If there is a need for basic belief then belief in
God violates that need though it tries to look as if it sorts it.
"God is a Basic Belief" No he is not!!
Plantinga believes that the only way that belief in God can be rational if there
is no evidence for God is if God is a basic belief. In other words God can be a
belief that leads us to believe in other things reasonably. He of course insists
that belief in God is a basic belief.
Is it right to argue, “My reason and senses are right for God gave them to me
and God doesn’t deceive”? The senses and reason of an insane person are not
right. Faith in God or even God being real does not guarantee that you are sane
and right.
Why not just assume that your senses are right? It is a leap of faith - faith in
yourself. To assume there is a God who never deceives that confers your senses
on you is bringing in another assumption. You are assuming your assumption that
God validates your assumption is correct. You assume God because you
already assume you are right!
Even without that,why make two assumptions when you can simply make one? Keep things simple. Logic demands it.
If you need the God assumption before you will trust your
faculties then you are not very confident in them or yourself. You cannot trust
your God assumption either or God! Also, if you don’t trust your reason
and your senses how do you know you can trust your power to assume? You are only
kidding yourself that you trust yourself. You end up deluding yourself that you
trust God and yourself. God is a delusion. Ultimately God is only believed in or
assumed because people want a sense of comfort and trust.
Bizarrely, Plantinga gives evidence for why it is sensible to believe in God
without evidence! That is an abuse of evidence. It is what people would do if
they wanted you to believe in nonsense and to stop you finding out. A truly
proper God will be reflected in his creation and thus in evidence. And nothing
can justify asking people to totally to commit to something that there is no
evidence for! It is simple, belief in God is bad in principle where there is no
attempt to get evidence. Even the Bible operates by the principle that faith
involves belief and is based on the knowledge and the evidence that comes from
testimony. Committing yourself to what you do not know is irrational. If you
know something and do not commit yourself to it much then you don't really know
it. Belief and commitment are inseparable.
If you need to imagine there is a supernatural force that supports truth and not
lies, then it does not matter what you think the force is as long as you believe
in it. So you can think your keyring is a manifestation of this force, God,
Muhammad or anything. In fact, Plantinga is only using the need for a basic
belief as an excuse not a reason to believe in God. It does not respect either
God or truth at all.
Steps
Suppose you want to think there is a God. Suppose you want to do this by seeing
that God is a basic belief. You are not saying right now if there is evidence
for or against. You are only wondering if you need to believe in God to believe
in truth.
You need to go on a journey and take some steps. Here are the steps.
- to assume that the idea of God makes sense and could be true. But the
believers just want to assume God makes sense! That demands evidence and
reasons. Why assume God makes sense? Why not just anything? Why not assume
something that does not seem to make sense and just say that it does make sense
but you don't know how?
- to assume that God cannot be refuted. But believers cannot just assume that.
You cannot assume there is no evidence against God for what if some tribe in the
Third World has this god-free-zone evidence that nobody really has heeded yet?
You only see if there is no evidence by looking. Evidence and assuming are not
friends but enemies. Evidence is to be used to help you refrain from assuming
and guessing. If God is based on opposing and dismissing evidence contrary to
God and refusing to look for it because you don't want to trust it then God
cannot be a basic belief but a basic unbelief. Fear of evidence is a sign of
fear of truth.
If evidence for God cancels out evidence against or vice versa then you can
assume there is no evidence. But that is looking and assuming. It is not just
assuming. Assuming could be ignoring evidence or an argument that he can be
refuted. You can't just say something cannot be refuted - it is up to the
evidence to say that not you.
It is clear by now that the steps don't let you go to the target. You cannot
assume that God is a basic belief.
Other issues
God is inspired by the notion of creation out of nothing. Plantinga said
that the believer in God can hold that "God has created the world, even if he
has no argument at all". If this is wrong then his whole argument that God
is basic fails. God as creating is in a sense more important than God as
loving. This idea cannot be assumed without argument for we do not know
what it means. It is clearly magic if something appears where there is
literally nothing. God may be there but it is not from him except he just
tells nothing to turn into something. Assuming something like this without
an argument is nothing to praise. No argument is any good for defending
nonsense.
Suppose hypothetically that you must assume that God
makes sense and that there is no evidence against God to pave the way to
assuming God exists for God is a basic belief. There are two steps, two
assumptions to make to let you believe without using evidence.
Do those assumptions matter equally? No. The first one matters most for the rest
cannot happen without it.
Showing that God is not ridiculous would matter more than the others. Showing
that does not mean he probably exists. You cannot say God exists though there is
no evidence for him or against him unless you have made sure God is a coherent
and possible idea in the first place. There is no point in trying to get
evidence that a man despite being paralysed from the neck down strangled
somebody to death! It is looking for proof of the impossible!
If you just assume God is not ridiculous that is creating a bias. You become
biased towards the assumption or belief that there is a God. Only evidence or
proof for God can show that God probably or definitely is not ridiculous. It is
not something you can just assume. Faith in God is faith in your biased self
more than faith in God. Let the evidence speak for or against.
Translation
Is being unable to refute God a sufficient reason for assuming he exists and
believing? Is that what the basic belief believers are saying?
Inability to refute anything has nothing to do with inviting belief. It only
makes it possible for there to be evidence and it is up to the evidence if you
should believe or not.
Though you don’t trust your mind or heart or intuition, you are still trusting
more in your power to assume than God. The assumption is your creation. It is
your idol. The God you have is not the real one if there is one. It is your
idol.
Plantinga has no right to say that God is a basic belief when he has not dealt
with the evidence against God. It is one thing to say that it is okay to believe
in a God without reasons if it is a basic belief but it is another to say it is
okay to do this and not look at all the evidences against God first. He declared
that attempts to prove God did not provide evidence for God but warrant for God.
He defined warrant as the inclination to believe in God and argued that this
inclination was placed in us by God and it justifies belief in God for it is
like God telling us through our needs that he exists. So if you are inclined to
believe in God then you can rationally believe that God exists (page 70, What is
Faith?). But most people have not believed in his kind of all-good God. And the
same could be said to prove the existence of the tooth fairy. What about those
who have no such inclination? It is more proper to say we have an inclination to
believe in the possibility of a happy life after death. The more you doubt the
existence of God the less inclination you have to believe in God so Plantinga’s
theory does not help the case for God at all.
The conflict between the existence of evil and the existence of an all-good God
which religion says is a mystery and cannot be completely solved means that God
is beyond good and evil for he causes both not that it is a mystery. Why?
Because there is no mystery for the creator to be beyond them or amoral. None at
all. That gets rid of the mystery. Kenny agrees (page 88, What is Faith?).
This thing is ignored by Christians and Plantinga does just that as well. A God
who doesn’t match up to the good that attracts us and that we value could
disapprove of the happiness we want or most of it. The Church likes to hide
these things in the interest of public relations.
What matters?
If you want faith in God just to allow you to believe in science and reason then they are what matter to you not God.
To argue that God validates them for you when you do not give a toss about him is to contradict yourself. God means that which matters for himself alone. If he validates things that oppose him and are put before him then he is either not a God or stupid. There is no validation.
Certain things that science and reason tell us are proven. If God as a validator is more important than them then God should be proven too or as provable as those things. But he is not. It is absurd to say it is proven than plants grow and then to say you only think so because God is behind it. A proof you think is true is not proven to you at all. Proof is knowing not thinking.
Religion does not give up though with its lies. It
says, "Depending on science to prove or at least support God and refusing to
believe without proof or support means you are also turning your back on love
and the value of life not to mention God. You are banishing justice and mercy
and equality and freedom. None of these can be proven to be good by using
science or looking for evidence. There is no proof that we should believe
something because our senses or experiments tell us that it is there."
What are they doing? They are turning their backs on reason and science
for if we need a truthful God before we can trust his gifts of science and
reason then we need proof! God and science and reason have to be as
convincing as each other! Also refusing to believe without proof is not
turning your back on love and other good things. Giving money to a baby
you barely believe exists is still love. God is not that important to
love.
Finally
God is too big of a claim to be merely assumed to be true. Assuming makes an
idol of your assuming - in other words yourself! - and assuming only leads to
you programming yourself that you know the thing to be true when you do not.
Habit and prayer are good at tricking you into forgetting that you don't know if
God exists and have you thinking you do know. When you think you know you prove
that you do not know.
It is said that we have faith that our brains can think and help distinguish between truth and error and truth and lie. We do not. Thinking is about trying to line up to the truth and discover it. It can be abused and be the enemy of truth but that does not alter the fact that it is for testing. You can see a pink elephant and tell yourself it is a blue one an even convince yourself that you are not seeing pink. That does not change the fact that your eye is for telling you what you see. We cannot avoid thinking. Thinking however badly done is behind all we do. It is implicit all the time. This explains why thinking works. We are not saying logic is true for it works or because we have faith in it. We are not arguing why it is true but explaining why it is true.
Arguing God is why we trust reason is trying to use God to argue why reason is true. It misses the point. It is irrational for that reason.
It is even trying to use God! Now that is respect!
Even if there is a God, we have no choice but to let reason be judge even of God so God cannot be the be all and the end all that he claims to be. We therefore oppose this God for we do not care if he is the only true good. I am on the throne not God even if I say God is on the throne. He is not on the throne for he cannot be put on it. There is no greater pride than using God for self-centred reasons. There is nothing wrong with the intrinsic self-centredness we all have. It is only wrong when we become more self-centred than we need to be. It is wrong to have faith in God. Faith in God is a mask for faith in yourself. You are on God's throne as if you are God. That is that.
To say that God is a basic belief that needs no rational justification argues that the belief is beyond logic. But surely a basic belief needs no justification for what it says but you need justification for saying a basic belief is needed!