ARE WE ONE PERSON BUNDLED OUT INTO DIFFERENT BODIES?
the argument
I am the same person but in different bodies. My
neighbour is as much me as I am.
Here is the proof from transfer of consciousness that all
life is one communion. If I could see with my eyes and my eyes were removed and
replaced with somebody else's eyes I would experience no difference. I would
feel as if no change took place at all. Consciousness could be switched from
body to body all the time and nobody would notice any difference because we are
all that one power.
Imagine the consciousness in you was transplanted into another body. Imagine you
don't take your memory or intelligence or any other faculty with you. You will
get the other person's memories and faculties. You would feel as if you were
always that person. There would be no difference if consciousness of person a
was transferred to person b and person b's transferred to person a's. This is
the answer to those who say that there is no proof that all people have the same
power of consciousness. This is our answer to those who say that if a is
conscious and b is conscious that does not mean that there is only one
consciousness.
You may say that you don't feel like you are the same consciousness as say
Barack Obama. You only feel you are not - but feelings are not guides to
reality. You can feel it is going to rain and that does not mean it will. It is
only the bodies causing that feeling. Moreover, if you are conscious of a
panoramic view and you become conscious of a beautiful diamond the following
week you will have the same feeling of separation. This time the separation is
caused by time. If time can do that then so can having different bodies.
My one consciousness tunes into the world by looking with two eyes. The fact
that I have one awareness does not mean I have one eye! So it does not mean I
have only one body. I am in many bodies. The majestic emperor of the world is
the same person as the child dying of starvation and poverty in the slums of
Manila.
You don't feel you exist when you are fast asleep and you do exist. It is easier
for the one power of awareness to be in two separate bodies than for that to
happen but it happens. Electricity is one energy shared out all over the
universe.
Here is the proof from the time-warp that all consciousness is one being.
Suppose Rachel enters her house to answer the telephone in her hall. She sits at
the phone. Suddenly there is a rip in time. And she comes in the door again. Now
we have two Rachels. One enters the hall and the other is sitting at the phone.
They are the same person. But Rachel at the door and Rachel at the phone will
feel in every sense that they are two separate persons. Philosophers may object
that this scenario is impossible. True, but that is not the point. It shows that
if I think I am me and not you I am wrong.
There would be two of me. I would not experience the other me as me. It would be
the same as a different person. But it is not a different person. When there two
mes clearly the fact that I feel separate from the other me has nothing at all
to do with proving that our consciousness is individual and that we are not one
spirit or mind parcelled out into different bodies. No the contrary is the case.
The time machine example proves that we are the one spirit. We do not experience
communion with one another in bread and wine but in loving each other.
If you lose your memory, you won't feel connected to yourself as you were a
second ago. Yet you are the same being. Just because consciousness has different
experiences does not mean that it has to be more than one consciousness. It is
the one consciousness having different experiences. The fact that a may have an
opposite kind of life to b does not prove that a and b are not the same being.
Life is one energy. Plants have life . Animals have life. We have life.
There is union. There is communion.
Space has height. It has length. It has breadth. Yet it is one. It is one in
three and three in one. In the same way, we are different manifestations of the
one entity. We still experience ourselves as individuals and that must be
respected. There can be no room for thinking, "Oh I will let that baby starve on
the street. I will make it up to it by enjoying myself better for me and the
baby are one and the same anyway." Your joy will be in coming to the assistance
of your other self.
Why would the one consciousness become all those different people? Does it not
look like it is playing a game? No. If I went back in time in a time machine and
met myself from ten years ago, practically speaking I would have to treat this
me as another person with love and respect. The fact that there is two mes would
not mean I wouldn't experience genuine love for the other me. We are the one
being in many bodies so that we can practice love.
Believe that when you bring a blessing to yourself that you are a part of group
consciousness, all minds in the world are one in a way. So to bless yourself is
to bless everybody else too. We are one. To improve a leaf on the tree is to
improve the tree.
To hurt another person is literally to punish yourself. You and other people are
one and the same person. You may not feel the pain now in this body but you are
still making yourself suffer. True self-love means you look after other people.
This is encouraging. It is easier to do good when you realise that you do it for
yourself and that it is not all about other people. We need this teaching.
Without it we will be less effective at improving ourselves as good people if we
are inclined to be selfish.
Love others - they are your other selves. This doctrine literally invites us to
care for others because they are ourselves. The notion that other people are
totally separate beings makes helping others more of a chore than a pleasure.
You end up wondering why you may be inclined make yourself unhappy at times to
make others happy. Now you know why.
If you believe that other people are not really you, you will find it impossible
to love them. Indeed, if you believe they are not other manifestations of
yourself and try to love everybody the same you will spread your love thin and
your loved ones will suffer for it. But with our philosophy, we can disagree
with Jesus Christ who said that people should leave spouses and loved ones for
him to serve strangers instead of them in those uber-dangerous and squalid
times. No, we hold that to serve your parents and spouse and children most of
all is to love other people in the sense that your loved ones are one and the
same person as the strangers. Why then can't we say we must look after the tramp
we have never seen before in preference to our grandfathers? The answer is that
our hearts call on us to treasure family. It is therefore the vocation we call
on ourselves.
It is good to treat others as another self. It is better to see that others are
literally you but in different bodies. That way, if you race your friend to the
million dollars and they get it you will not care. You have still won. No matter
what somebody takes from you they have taken nothing. Thus there is no need to
fear the success or well-being of "others". They are not others but MES. There
are no enemies. Enemies are only people who think they hate one another. They
are deluded to think that each person is separate from the next person. The one
who hates me does not see that she or he is me. Remember, you only give away
what you already have. You have actually on the magical level given your friend
the million dollars. You need to fill your heart with the energy of love to be
able to give the love away. Giving a friend a million, manifesting a million for
that person is love.
When you think you do not have what others have you get upset and jealous and
envious. Others are you but in different bodies. Seeing this tells you that the
confidence you envy in another person can be yours because it is yours. To see
it as somebody else's raises the prospect of never achieving the confidence they
achieved.
To hurt another person is to hurt yourself. Love yourself by service of others.
Feed the poor. Clothe the naked. Give shelter to the stranger. Smile at the
lonely. Educate the uneducated. Visit prisoners. As often as you fail to do
these things you fail to care for yourself.
When another suffers, in truth, it is I who suffer. This is literally true. To
love another is to love myself. No better truth has ever appeared that motivates
me to help others.
We know that the consciousness in you and me is the one power, the one energy.
When somebody dies, the drop of energy returns to the big pool. So when somebody
dies, they become us in the sense that their consciousness is the same entity as
the consciousness in us. Death as the complete end of you does not exist. We
should call it "transformation point" not death.
I am one yet many for I value love so much. Christians hold that God is one
being and not one person. He is three persons in one being. They say this is not
contradictory for he is not said to be three persons in one person but three
persons in one being. We believe in one consciousness, one being, that manifests
in many bodies. Each one of us is this consciousness in a different stream. This
stream can last forever. In other words, the person Paul might die but Paul can
live on in a new reincarnated body and do this forever.
We don't need to join Churches that claim to be one and holy and to be uniting
people. We don't need their communion rites to make us one. We are one. We just
need to see. To try anything else is merely refusing to build proper unity. It
is creating outward unity as a substitute for the real thing.
Strike the balance between honouring the group and the individual comprising it.
The group has needs. The individuals making up the group have needs too. Balance
these - don't neglect the rights of the group for the rights of the individuals
or the rights of the individual for the rights of the groups.
The notion of one person many bodies can comfort those who feel guilty following
an abortion.
If there is consciousness in the body of the aborted foetus, it can be believed
that when the mother has an abortion that it goes to the womb of another woman.
Abortion in this view is not murder but sending a baby somewhere else. The need
to have an abortion and the opportunity can be taken as signs from the baby that
it is time for it to be sent to another mother. Miscarriages and abortions could
reflect the idea that spirits become bodies and change their minds and decide to
go to the womb of another. Or the spirits didn't want to be on earth very long.
It is helpful to teach that if a woman would be doing wrong by having an
abortion then the opportunity just won't happen. A woman must never be caused to
feel guilt over having an abortion.
All that happens to me is chosen by me!
If I believe and perceive that all that happens to me is caused by me and chosen
by me I will be able to accept unpleasant things better.
This is better than the advice, "If something awful happens to you, just accept
it."
We gave up our amazing knowledge to become free agents. The being that
endeavours to learn is freer than the person who knows it all.
People may feel that it is important that everyone reflect on this message -
doing so sends healing energy to those who use abortion.
One major attraction of the one person many bodies doctrine is that it seems to
console the bereaved. They have a reason to believe that the departed will live
on in their hearts and memories.
We are ultimately the one person: our memories of our beloved departed literally
keeps them alive in our hearts and minds. They are made really present in our
hearts. Our heads become tabernacles that enshrine them.
Value the body, your sexuality, your emotions, your beauty and your human reason
- we believe we value them so much that our spirits took a risk and became flesh
and will do many times. No matter how splendid a temple may be, it is never a
temple. The body of the "lowest" person on earth is a greater temple than it. A
building that cannot do anything or sense anything is not a temple. The body
works and senses and thus it proves itself to be the house of deity.
Faith/belief is very powerful. It colours how you see and perceive. If you see
people as shifty you will filter out the evidence against this and remember the
evidence for it. Thus you end up harming yourself through your belief. Is it not
better to see them as yourself in other bodies and as deities in their own
right? You will love and cherish and respect them better. Belief is you being
God. When you worship God, it is really the beliefs that you have constructed
that you worship. This is idolatry and shows that it would be wiser to adore
yourself and others in the first place!
reply
The major error in the reasoning above is the thought
that if my consciousness is switched with somebody else's we will not notice any
difference. It is true no difference will be noticed but it does not follow that
my consciousness and hers or his is the same. If an eye sees in Spain and in
Taiwan it does not follow that they are the same eye.
The time warp argument overlooks the fact that time may
be set up to avoid the contradiction of you meeting yourself because your future
self left the future and went back in time. It assumes it makes sense to imagine
a time warp but it does not. It is fantasy stuff.
And if there is only one person who has to live in many
bodies in order that he may love himself more there is nothing really
praiseworthy about that. It is narcissistic. Is it really right for me to extend
myself into countries where my other selves will suffer and die? The other self
I make that suffers and dies so that I can love me in her or him is being used
not loved.
When the love is shallow and not real then why not say I
become other people in order to have fun torturing them? The fact remains that
the me in this body does not know how they feel so the notion that we are all
one person in many bodies will not stop people being selfish and neglecting
others.
The abortion argument is correct but it can also be used
to argue, "If I am one person in many bodies then who cares if I murder another?
It only kills that manifestation of me and not me."
They argue that wrong or suspicious belief is bad for you
which is why you should hold that others are as much you as you are. But it does
not change the fact that even if we accept this doctrine we will not really feel
as much love for everybody else as we do for ourselves and relatively few
others. It is the same hypocrisy as, love your neighbour as yourself.
And if you only honour others because they are you, what
will happen when you decide they are not you? You will probably have to go
completely self-absorbed.
And the notion that you choose to be born in a famine
country is insane.
At first glance, it seems that the belief that you have chosen the terrible things that happen to you is comforting. But it makes you blame yourself for them and for the hurt it causes those who suffer with you. And if the things are not your fault, trying to feel that they are will only make it worse. You will be trying to deny the reality.
The notion that you are freer if you work to attain knowledge is nonsense. It
would imply that a person who is given knowledge in a book to learn is worse off
than a person who has to go to the other end of the world to get such knowledge.
Knowledge and freedom are separate faculties.